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Ketones And Normal Blood Sugar

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please,join our community todayto contribute and support the site. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. I still dont see why ketones (small-moderate) are dangerous if your BS is in range and you are ill. It has been explained many of times. Dont you have ketones becuase you are ill, the stress on the body,not becuase you are at risk of DKA? Can someone explain it in lame man terms? Here is the argument as I've heard it: Ketones are a result of not enough insulin. Often high bg is present as well, as another result of not enough insulin. Type 1 diabetics aren't able to clear ketones like other people would, so if they build up, you can end up with DKA. I've heard several instances where someone started going into DKA with "normal" blood sugar and ended up with one IV in each arm - one dextrose and one insulin. Anecdotally, it seems to me that this is more of a risk with children and not adults. Still, I wouldn't take chances with it. If I had moderate or high ketones, I would try to clear them out (by carb and insulin intake). .... Ketones are a result of not enough insulin. .... Not quite. Ketones in the u Continue reading >>

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  1. CharleneRed

    Sick child with normal blood sugar but ketones in urine?

    My 5yr old has type 1, and has the flu. Her blood sugar is pretty normal to sometimes low as she does not want to eat but is drinking fluids. I tested her urine for ketones and they are 2+. I was told to increase her bg and give insulin every hour. does this make any sense?

  2. foxl

    2+ seems high. Ketones can simply indicate that you are burning fat as fuel -- either your own or dietary.
    My non-D daughter, now 10, used to get horrible ketone breath because when ill, she would NOT EAT!
    But GIVE INSULIN every HOUR??? No.

  3. furball64801

    I would not think insulin every hour could be regulated and you would have the stacking affect, make sure she has plenty of fluid.

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Ketones With Normal Blood Sugars

Diabetes Forum The Global Diabetes Community Find support, ask questions and share your experiences. Join the community I recently got the flu and was feeling awful with a temperature and all the fun that comes with it!. I knew I had to keep eating and taking in fluids though. I could barely get out of bed but I did what I had to. On the 3rd day in the night I checked and found I had high levels of ketones in my urine but in my blood it was 0.9. I checked again a little while later and it was 1.1 in my blood. Then 1.4. My sugars weren't too bad. As the ketones were rising and it was getting later I was worried at what point I would need help. The rule of thumb being getting advice at 1.5 and above and if higher and vomiting then going to A & E. I rang 111 as I didn't have anywhere else I could ring at that time. Then a paramedic phoned back to chat. She felt a dr was needed. A dr came round and said Id done the right thing. He found I had a UTI so prescribed antibiotics straight away. I was in a state but he said the ketones didn't concern him at this point particularly as they'd come down a bit since he arrived. Down to 1.1. I have since been in touch with my diabetic nurse durin Continue reading >>

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  1. CharleneRed

    Sick child with normal blood sugar but ketones in urine?

    My 5yr old has type 1, and has the flu. Her blood sugar is pretty normal to sometimes low as she does not want to eat but is drinking fluids. I tested her urine for ketones and they are 2+. I was told to increase her bg and give insulin every hour. does this make any sense?

  2. foxl

    2+ seems high. Ketones can simply indicate that you are burning fat as fuel -- either your own or dietary.
    My non-D daughter, now 10, used to get horrible ketone breath because when ill, she would NOT EAT!
    But GIVE INSULIN every HOUR??? No.

  3. furball64801

    I would not think insulin every hour could be regulated and you would have the stacking affect, make sure she has plenty of fluid.

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Ketone Testing

Tweet Ketone testing is a key part of type 1 diabetes management as it helps to prevent a dangerous short term complication, ketoacidosis, from occurring. If you have type 1 diabetes, it is recommended that you have ketone testing supplies on your prescription. Ketone testing may also be useful in people with other types of diabetes that are dependent upon insulin. Why test for ketones? Ketones are produced by the body as an alternative source of energy to sugar. The body produces ketones by breaking down fats, this process is known as ketosis. Ketones may be produced as part of weight loss, however, it’s important for people with diabetes on insulin to note that ketones can be produced when the body has insufficient insulin. When the body has too little insulin, it means that cells of the body cannot take in enough sugar from the blood. To compensate for this, the body will start to break down fat to provide ketones. However, if a high level of ketones is produced, this can cause the blood to become acidic which can lead to illness and even potential danger to organs if not treated in time. This state is referred to as diabetic ketoacidosis. Where can I get ketone testing kits a Continue reading >>

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  1. derphamster

    Yes you were on the way to DKA, because you are not producing enough insulin to meet your body's needs whilst working out.
    You can go into DKA without your blood sugars being high if you have a mismatch in insulin requirement vs insulin output. The normal/low blood sugar DKA is quite rare but it can happen if the circumstances are right. You did the right thing to fight it, by having some carbs and protein and drinking a lot of water. If it repeats and you can't get the ketones down and you feel unwell you need to go to hospital. DKA can put you in a coma within hours so you need to take it seriously.
    I'd try to ease off doing hard workouts. You can still exercise but if this happens again you should rethink. You can also use this to back up your story at the doctors.

  2. joralo

    Thank you derphamster, you always give great advice in all of my threads. :) Now I'm even more scared....I feel even more wary of the oGTT now, I shouldn't take it if I react this badly. If I am on my way to DKA with just some exercise and not much food - how will I react when downing 75 g of glucose? Probably straight to DKA... I really don't know what to do, other than sit around and wait until I actually develop whatever form of diabetes I have - so that some doctor will finally help me out and take me seriously. Even if I took the oGTT - what if it's one of those rare unpredictable days where my body still handles it and at the 2nd hour it is < 200...I will be sent home as "glucose intolerant" and would still be none the wiser. This limbo state truly sucks, sorry had to vent.

  3. derphamster

    Don't worry, ogtt won't cause you to go into DKA. You'll still be making the same amount of insulin, which is obviously enough for normal activities (evidenced by your normal readings most of the time). DKA occurs not from high blood sugar, but from not having enough insulin for your needs. The reason you got ketones when you were exercising is that a workout drastically increases the body's need for insulin as there are hundreds of hungry muscles competing for fuel, which is delivered by insulin. When insulin can't keep up, the body must burn fat for fuel which generates ketones.
    I also forgot to mention that your lack of food (specifically, carbs) before your workout could also cause your body to produce more ketones due to not enough glucose. If you'll be doing something strenuous, consider having a 10-15g carb snack shortly beforehand.
    The high blood sugar normally associated with DKA is a result of too little insulin for the body's basic function, so even though a person is eating carbs, the sugar just stays in the blood and builds up to a high level. The high blood sugar is a symptom, not a cause.

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