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Ketogenesis Vs Ketosis

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The Ketogenic Diet For Athletes: Ketosis Or Carbs?

Home > Diet & Nutrition > Ketogenic Diet for Athletes Here in Part IV of the Sock Doc Essential Guide to Carbohydrates Im going to discuss the hot topic of a ketogenic diet for athletes. Ketosis is a metabolic state where the liver takes fat and proteins and produces molecules called ketone bodies to use for energy. Ketosis allows a starving person to survive for days (or even months). Some athletes see great improvements in their health and fitness when theyre in a ketogenic state, while others just feel miserable. So is a ketogenic diet right for you? Your brain is approximately 2% of your body mass, though it requires approximately 20% of your basal metabolic rate more if youre a thinker. Thats not necessarily a joke, believe it or not. Different parts of your brain use different amounts of glucose, and nearly twice as much later in the day than in the morning. If youre using your brain solving problems and working mentally hard throughout the day, youll need to fuel your head more. If youre working more on motor control, (say a skill involving precision or balance), then youll use less glucose. Personally, I can attest to how much my brain uses more energy when mentally challe Continue reading >>

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  1. doctorketo

    So after some Reddit lurking and reading up from some other sources, I decided to try Keto. I've already lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks, feel great, and last night I visited my doctor for a physical (medical forms). Upon taking the urine test, he seemed to be alarmed by the ketones in my blood, and he said they were acidic/poisonous to my body and my body was in "starvation mode". I definitely wasn't starved - I just enjoyed a steak salad for lunch and all my carb cravings have completely vanished. He said a balanced diet was healthier, and that the "acid" in my blood would make me tired, but I feel better and more energetic than ever before. He said that diabetics fall into comas as a result of excess Ketones, which also cause organ damage and cancer? We were able to agree on one thing though - all the ketones in my pee were a result of some serious fat burning, and that's enough to keep me motivated. I'm just looking for some clarification on how much of what he said was true, or just BS (he is a self-employed general physician, and I don't think he's very experienced in the dieting field). To be so convinced that Keto is the way to go and have a sudden conflicting opinion is pretty tough - I really hope I'm not killing myself with this.
    Edit: So it looks like he is confusing Ketosis with Ketoacidosis, which is when I am in an uncontrollable state of extreme/dangerous Ketosis. Thanks for the support and knowledge my friends, this will give me the confidence and motivation to continue!

  2. zeezle

    Ketosis is very dangerous... if you're on a high-carb diet. Because that means something's going really really wrong and your blood sugar is not being managed correctly; ketosis in that situation is a precursor to full-blown ketoacidosis. If you're eating 300g+ of carbs daily for a while and staying deep in ketosis, that's bad. Really bad. Because in that situation, your body absolutely should be burning glucose, and if it's not, well, that's no bueno, because that means the glucose is floating around in your bloodstream uncontrolled.
    But if you're on a low-carb diet, ketosis is perfectly safe and expected. In this situation, ketosis is a sign that your body is doing what it's supposed to be doing. There's no huge quantities of glucose to be managing, so ketosis is naturally what's going to happen. It's a sign that everything is exactly as it should be.
    He probably learned the bit above about ketosis being dangerous without the dietary carbohydrate qualifier, and has never learned more about it.
    Also, in a normal functioning human (a.k.a. not a diabetic), your blood pH will never go outside a narrow range. Your body will use minerals from your diet to buffer your bloodstream to keep it within a pH of 7.35 to 7.45. If it were to fall outside that range, it would be very dangerous (this is why diabetic ketoacidosis is dangerous); but that only happens with specific health problems and is not something any normal-functioning human needs to worry about. Your body will go to any lengths necessary to maintain that pH. That said, it is important to make sure you're getting enough of the buffering minerals (like calcium, and magnesium so that the calcium is being absorbed properly) in your diet, because your body WILL take it from whatever calcium source is available (like, say, your bones) if there's not enough of it in your diet.

  3. murderofcrows

    It is so vitally important that your blood pH stay in that narrow range, that if your body can't get the correct minerals from your diet, it will use the minerals it stores in your bones to get it. If you are consistently running an acidic pH in your blood, it can lead to osteoporosis later on in life. The body runs best when your blood pH is slightly alkaline.

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You Asked: Should I Try The Ketogenic Diet?

You Asked: Should I Try the Ketogenic Diet? Dont let its fancy name fool you. A ketogenic diet is, essentially, a low-carb, high-fat dietalbeit one taken to extremes. In a clinical setting, a strict ketogenic diet would involve ultra-low carb consumption, like 20 or 30 grams a day, says Dr. Eric Westman, director of the Lifestyle Medicine Clinic at Duke University. Thats about the number of carbohydrates in one small apple. Westmans research on carb-restricted diets suggests they can help reduce appetite, spur weight loss and improve markers of heart disease. His findings arent outliers. From Atkins and South Beach to Mediterranean and Zone, low-carb, high-fat dietsor LCHF plansare all the rage , and growing evidence suggests theyre a big improvement on the typical carb-heavy American diet. But the keto diet is the most carb-restrictive member of the LCHF gang. Along with slashing carbs, a ketogenic plan also calls for limiting your protein consumption. If you know your macronutrients, you recognize that cutting carbs and restricting protein means seriously upping your fat intake. And thats exactly what a true ketogenic diet entails. Youd want healthy fats to account for about 80% Continue reading >>

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    I've wanted a ketonix for a while but am not going to fork over hundreds of dollars. So I followed some advice and got myself a cheap breathalyzer on ebay. Apparently they don't distinguish between alcohol and acetone.
    IT WORKS!
    Now I can measure easily whether or not I am in ketosis anytime I suspect I may have dropped out. The ketostix stopped working for me a long time ago as my body is very well adapted and I don't excrete a lot of measurable ketones.The breathalyzer is not much good for finding your millimoler value of ketones, but then again, by all accounts neither is a ketonix itself. The breathalyzer cost me $12 and you can get them cheaper. In fact, it's only the cheaper ones that work. You can get these breathalyzers as cheap as a few dollars.
    Here's the one I used below

    That reading above is while fully sober... * I swear * Only trouble is it beeps like crazy when it detects 0.05% or over (the legal alcohol driving limit in australia). I'm sure other models wouldn't beep.


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  2. BillJay

    Thanks @yogipete ! This is both interesting and worrisome at the same time!

    I may get a cheap one myself, but in the meantime I'd love to see if others can replicate your results.

  3. yogipete

    My pleasure.

    I might also add that the reading is consistent regardless of my method of blowing etc... which is a problem that haunts the ketonix. I've done a few baseline tests on my partnerr who always blows 0 (she's currently non-keto) while I generally blow between .04 and .05 (but in any one moment of the day the reading is always identical regardless of my personal clumsiness in using the meter). I'm looking forward to testing some more non-keto friends.

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Is Ketosis Dangerous?

You may have heard from your doctor that ketosis is a life-threatening condition. If so, your doctor is confusing diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) with nutritional ketosis, or keto-adaptation. First, some semantics. Our body can produce, from fat and some amino acids, three ketone bodies (a “ketone” refers to the chemical structure where oxygen is double-bonded to carbon sandwiched between at least 2 other carbons). These ketone bodies we produce are: acetone, acetoacetone, and beta-hydroxybutyrate (B-OHB). [For anyone who is interested, they are the 3 most right structures on the figure, below.] Why do we make ketones? For starters, it’s a vital evolutionary advantage. Our brain can only function with glucose and ketones. Since we can’t store more than about 24 hours’ worth of glucose, we would all die of hypoglycemia if ever forced to fast for more than a day. Fortunately, our liver can take fat and select amino acids (the building blocks of proteins) and turn them into ketones, first and foremost to feed our brains. Hence, our body’s ability to produce ketones is required for basic survival. What is diabetic ketoacidosis? When diabetics (usually Type I diabetics, but some Continue reading >>

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  1. GolfIsWhyImBroke

    I switched to a keto diet about 2 weeks ago and I have gotten my macros almost right on the button at 60/35/5 over the last 4-5 days (learning curve!). Are there any physical cues that you get from your body that tells you that you are in a ketogenic state? Also, how long does it usually take to get there? Thanks guys!

  2. tiltedcanvas

    Sometimes your pee will be filmy or have more bubbles in it. It also could smell a lot stronger than usual. You also will notice a pretty major change in your breath - could be fruity/sweet/overripe fruit or metallic. Could just be gross and make your mouth taste weird or unpleasant. Occasionally your body odor can change or become stronger...
    Other early keto adaption 'symptoms' can be
    Extra energy
    Waking up without an alarm, way earlier than regular, rearing to go.
    Sleeping better
    Lack of an appetite
    Vivid dreams
    None of these are sure signs, and not everyone has all if any of them. Eat less than 20g of carbs per day, and you're more than likely in keto.

  3. madhousesfill

    Vivid dreams? So this is the cause. I've been having nightmares EVERY NIGHT.

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