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How Do I Know If I Am In Ketosis? - 3 Fat Chicks On A Diet Weight Loss Community

I have been on the IP plan for eight days. I've lost 8 pounds... But I'm not sure if I've actually gone into ketosis. I've read about metallic taste, no appetite, thirst, etc. But I don't think I've experienced any of these. I've been following the plan religiously since day one. I just don't know if I'm doing anything wrong, or if this is perfectly normal. I'm glad I'm on the plan and happy with the results I've seen so far. I just want to make sure I know if I'm doing something wrong as soon as possible so I can correct it. Any advice would be soooo appreciated. And thanks to you guys in the forum. I've been stalking here for a few weeks. I don't think I could have/would have done this diet without you! You could buy the strips to be sure. I don't have any strips, but the only thing different for me is I am so thirsty all of the time. I sip (sometimes gulp) water all day. I take extra salt to compensate. But I don't have ketosis breath or the metallic taste in my mouth. So I don't know if I am officially in ketosis or not, but this is my 9th day OP and I am down 8 lbs. I think if you lose the weight, and you are following the program, then you are in ketosis. Continue reading >>

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  1. Roark

    Hey Guys,
    I realize I really have no clue what exactly is going on with ketosis or some of the diet in general, so any help in shedding light on it would be greatly appreciated! Please feel free to answer one or any of the following questions:
    1) I always thought ketosis occurred when one severely restricts carb intake, but I also know ketosis is the result of intermittent fasting. Does it happen under both situations independently, or must one both restrict carbs plus incorporate intermittent fasting to enter Ketosis?
    2) How quickly should one be able to enter ketosis? When not in ketosis, does this mean the body is storing fat and burning glucose?
    3) If while in ketosis the body is burning fat for fuel, wouldn't a high fat diet make available so much dietary fat that the body never needs to burn already stored fat for energy?
    4) What color should be targeted when using Ketostix, as I tend to get between small and medium after a week of less than 30 carbs daily. When is the best time of day to test with ketostix?
    5) When eating too many carbs to enter ketosis, does this mean that the body will naturally burn glucose before burning any fat? Is dietary fat stored when not in ketosis?
    6) If one eats regularly and stays bulletproof, but does not use intermittent fasting, does this mean the body does not enter ketosis and therefore the body never starts burning fat for energy, but instead stores eat? If not - what happens to all the dietary fat in the BP diet when not in ketosis?
    7) Is it safe for a friend who is not on the BP diet to consume high fat BP foods like BP Ice Cream - or will that lead to more fat storage than if they were to just eat regular, lower fat, higher sugar ice cream?
    I've been following and tweaking the diet for myself, but realize I really don't know what happens and why, so thanks in advance for all your help!

  2. Valentinoff

    1) I believe being in ketosis and IF are independent events. You can be in ketosis without IF'ing (by being low carb) and you can IF but not be in Ketosis (high carb when not fasting)
    7) I've read that you ought to give your friend some kind of supplement to aid with the fat digestion with 'Get Some' ice cream. A long timer on the forum would have to expand on this with the exact supplement/ingredient...
    I'm not so sure about the rest as I'm also at the beginning of my Bulletproof journey =D

  3. Roark

    1) I believe being in ketosis and IF are independent events. You can be in ketosis without IF'ing (by being low carb) and you can IF but not be in Ketosis (high carb when not fasting)
    7) I've read that you ought to give your friend some kind of supplement to aid with the fat digestion with 'Get Some' ice cream. A long timer on the forum would have to expand on this with the exact supplement/ingredient...

    I'm not so sure about the rest as I'm also at the beginning of my Bulletproof journey =D
    Oh yea, now that you mention it, I do recall hearing Dave talk somewhere about normal diet people needing to somehow supplement the high fat consumption.
    I'm not so sure about #1, as I remember hearing Dave talk about why the consumption of BP Coffee doesn't break the ketosis because of the high MCT, but possibly other foods, even eggs and beef might not work in the same way, since the liver would still be required to start working again? I could be way off, but if someone can remain in ketosis even while eating BP food very often, what would the point be of fasting? Furthermore, I've noticed in myself that even on a strict BP diet, without intermittent fasting, I tend to gain weight slowly, which makes no sense if I'm in fat burning mode...unless it has to do with my question #3 above, and you eat more fat than the body can burn?

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How Do I Tell If I Am In Ketosis Without Ketostix?

How do i tell if i am in ketosis without ketostix? How do i tell if i am in ketosis without ketostix? For almost a month I've been eating food that is zero carbs, except for the 2g or so that happens to be in sausage, cheese etc. In fact, my diet is mostly meat, eggs, cheese, and some broc****. Actually, now that I think about it, I drink a lot of coffee with creamer in it. The creamer is 3g fat, 1g carb, and 1g protein for 2 tablespoons (standard creamer, not the flavored stuff). I read on here that having the metallic taste in your mouth means your in ketosis because of the ketones you breath out, and I had that for a while, but now its gone. I was wondering if this means I am in ketosis or not? If I'm not in ketosis, is the coffee creamer keeping me out of it? For almost a month I've been eating food that is zero carbs, except for the 2g or so that happens to be in sausage, cheese etc. In fact, my diet is mostly meat, eggs, cheese, and some broc****. Actually, now that I think about it, I drink a lot of coffee with creamer in it. The creamer is 3g fat, 1g carb, and 1g protein for 2 tablespoons (standard creamer, not the flavored stuff). I read on here that having the metallic t Continue reading >>

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  1. carissanbo

    I'm just wondering if there are ways to tell if you're in Ketosis without using the strips. We live in the Outback in Australia in a small town and I'm not sure I would be able to find them here. And to be honest, I really don't feel like checking. I feel that I finally found a WOE that works for me and I'm feeling great and don't want to focus too much on that aspect. So I'm wondering if there are signs to tell me.
    I'm finishing up my 3rd day of induction and to be honest, it's been pretty easy for me. I haven't really had any bad side effects and after supper I have no urges or cravings to eat anything (and no urges for carbs during the day). I have ALWAYS had a snack before bed my whole life, but I've really had no interest.
    I just want to make sure I'm doing this right. If you go to my journal you can check out my menu for today if you'd like to see what I'm eating. And I have lost a few pounds.
    Thanks!

  2. Sinbad

    Hiya!
    You should update your profile with your weight loss so we can share your happiness
    As for ketosis, I can tell without strips because I sometimes get an odd tinny taste in my mouth, I don't feel hungry or sluggish or headachey at all, and most convincing of all (for me) is that my pee smells almost of acetone... Sometimes it looks almost greenish too but that could be because of the supplements I'm taking (or all the green veggies I'm eating, which I never used to! )
    Of course, the best sign that you're in ketosis/lipolysis is that you're losing weight!
    Good luck with the plan!
    Steven

  3. btdude

    Agreed. Metal mouth prevails. You are in the bathroom every (at least) 35.4 minutes.

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How Do I Know I'm In Ketosis?!!! (without Ketostix)

Yesterday, I felt very different than usual. I had so much energy throughout the day, and I could not sleep last night.Today I feel the same way, and think I am in ketosis. If that were true, how long would it be safe for me to remain this way before eating a potato or two lol? What are the symptoms of being in ketosis? I didn't feel hungry after eating yesterday or today and know that I am not getting enough calories. At 11am today I ate 3 slices of bacon, and 3 eggs cooked in the fat, plus 1 tablespoon(approx.) of a cheddarcheese and butter blend I made. I don't know how to describe the feeling but kind of this "giddy high" lol. Can someone share some good links or books/information on ketosis? By the way I am 18 and female. Continue reading >>

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  1. Bellyman

    I am just wondering if there are any signs of ketosis that one can watch for that a person can see without any sort of testing? Are there things that happen physically that give clues?
    I don’t have any means of testing anything. I have a simple bathroom scale. That’s pretty much my only tool.
    I’ve been eating what I think is a pretty strict keto diet for about 4 days shy of one month. I’ve had a day or two when I didn’t exactly feel the greatest but never anything resembling the flu. I’ve had a couple of small oopsies but quite small ones, not within the last week or so, and less than I would have fingers for counting on one hand. I’ve been pretty good. I haven’t done anything extraordinary exercise wise, just a little walking. I’ve lost 19 pounds and feel pretty good. Brain seems pretty clear. No real issues that I can point towards except maybe a few restless nights, but even that isn’t dramatic, and getting used to new bowel habits.
    One thing I have noticed several times in the last week, when I take a shower in the mornings, I kinda notice what I think might be my breath. It’s not quite the same acetone smell I’ve noticed after a hard workout (when I had my elliptical machine). But it’s still a peculiar smell. I’ve wondered if that might be a hint that I may be in ketosis.
    So that got me to wondering whether that or maybe some other subtle things might be little clues of being in ketosis.
    I hope I haven’t plowed right into the content of a previous thread. I didn’t see it if it’s here, though, I’ll be the first to admit, I haven’t read them all.
    Glad to hear what you think if you’d care to share!

    And thanks for being here to talk about something that so many people haven’t a clue about. To most, it’s total deer-in-the-headlights talking about keto.

  2. Just_Todd

    Bellyman:
    And thanks for being here to talk about something that so many people haven’t a clue about. To most, it’s total deer-in-the-headlights talking about keto.

    The people here are the salt of the earth. (See what I did there?) I’m curious to hear responses to your question.

  3. Daisy

    Unless you have a really broken metabolism and need super super low carbs you are in ketosis and have been for a while. It does take a bit longer to really start running on fat as routine - what people call being fat adapted.

    It drove me mad not knowing though and I had to get gadgets!

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