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Is It Better To Be In Ketosis To A Greater Degree?

Is it better to be in ketosis to a greater degree? Will one become better at intense fat burning during exercise if one is in ketosis to a relatively greater degree? I can not run at 80% of max heart rate while in ketosis. I hope to get there. Will I get there faster if my ketones are 2.5 all the time instead of 1.5 all the time? If so, how do I get more ketones? Will 10g net carbs daily produce more ketones than 30g net carbs daily? I know that Dr. Phinney has said that he stays above 0.5 ketones with 50g carbs daily. Many others in this forum seem to have less carbs and more ketones. Is there an advantage to that? try it! you have to experiment for things like this because so much depends on the individual. I have found that body goes through so many changes with this that you basically turn a little mad scientist sometimes to see what works for you. You sound like a bit of a numbers fanatic though which i am not. If I want to run faster I just swig some coconut oil And run fast. If i want to burn up stored fat i just dont eat and run slow until I am borderline passing out. I try to focus more on what and how I am feeling more than things like numbers. From what Ive read, it doe Continue reading >>

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  1. Porthardygurl

    I am feeling rather upset and concerned right now at this time. I have been OP since i started this program this time around..Not a lick , taste or a bite and my numbers show the continuous losses from week to week..I have been so happy being in ketosis and not feeling hungry...
    HOWEVER... I was feeling seriously nauseated in the store today, felt like i was going to puke...so my hubby grabbed me a 1 litre gingerale and we booked it out of there pronto...I get to the car, unscrew the cap and suck it back like nobodys business...hoping that it would help..Well..good news is..it did help... BAD NEWS is... It wasnt diet ...
    I didnt even look at the label on the bottle till after i had drank some..Usually i pick up diet .... i never buy the sugar laden soft drinks..but my hunny must have picked it up in a rush, and didnt look..and of course me thinking that he has my best interest at heart..assumed it was diet....
    So now im seriously conerned i have knocked myself out of ketosis...
    The carb content per 8oz were 25 grams of carbs... 16 grams of sugar...
    I measured the rest of the gingerale out when i got home to see how much i had drank..and it looks like maybe 1/2 a cup was gone..My question is...if thats half a cup...then thats about 13 total carbs for that 1/2 cup....
    My other food for the day..has consisted of..
    morning shake: 2 g net carb
    Lunch shake : 2 g net carb
    wafer packet alternative: 6 net carb
    So thats 10 grams of Net carbs without adding in vegs yet...So 10 plus 12 is 22 Net carbs...will this kick me out of ketosis????? Ive worked so hard to stay OP 100% I dont want to have ruined it...

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    Originally Posted by Porthardygurl
    I am feeling rather upset and concerned right now at this time. I have been OP since i started this program this time around..Not a lick , taste or a bite and my numbers show the continuous losses from week to week..I have been so happy being in ketosis and not feeling hungry...
    HOWEVER... I was feeling seriously nauseated in the store today, felt like i was going to puke...so my hubby grabbed me a 1 litre gingerale and we booked it out of there pronto...I get to the car, unscrew the cap and suck it back like nobodys business...hoping that it would help..Well..good news is..it did help... BAD NEWS is... It wasnt diet ...
    I didnt even look at the label on the bottle till after i had drank some..Usually i pick up diet .... i never buy the sugar laden soft drinks..but my hunny must have picked it up in a rush, and didnt look..and of course me thinking that he has my best interest at heart..assumed it was diet....
    So now im seriously conerned i have knocked myself out of ketosis...
    The carb content per 8oz were 25 grams of carbs... 16 grams of sugar...
    I measured the rest of the gingerale out when i got home to see how much i had drank..and it looks like maybe 1/2 a cup was gone..My question is...if thats half a cup...then thats about 13 total carbs for that 1/2 cup....
    My other food for the day..has consisted of..
    morning shake: 2 g net carb
    Lunch shake : 2 g net carb
    wafer packet alternative: 6 net carb
    So thats 10 grams of Net carbs without adding in vegs yet...So 10 plus 12 is 22 Net carbs...will this kick me out of ketosis????? Ive worked so hard to stay OP 100% I dont want to have ruined it... I wish I could help you, but I'm too new to be sure....All I can do is hope for you!! I think the magic number I hear is 40 carbs or less a day, so you might be ok???? I'm sure someone else will know. I've got my fingers crossed for you!
    Look on the bright side...this will make for an excellent update on IPTV!

  3. scorbett1103

    I'm way too new to be an expert, but I've done LOTS of reading on the forums since starting. I have seen more than one person post that their coach allowed for a "cheat" day (which I can only assume means they would be eating a lot more carbs than usual) followed by 2 days on VERY strict phase 1 protocol with NO restricted packets/bars. Not something to make a habit of, but it might be worth doing for the next 2 days and talk to your coach. You might stall just a little but you shouldn't lose too much ground.

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Hello! My Tribe, Why Am I Not Losing Weight? Do you have this question then today will tell you about some common Weight Loss Mistakes If youve been trying to lose weight, youve probably started to eat less, exercise more, choose diet foods, avoid fat, or cut down calories. Maybe youve done all this and youre still not achieved your weight loss goal. Or youve had short-term results, but the weight keeps coming back and you feel stuck. To be able to lose the weight for good, its important to understand that both your dietary as well as lifestyle habits can really hinder your success, sometimes on a very subtle level. So, today Im going to tell you about ten common mistakes that are slowing down your weight loss progress. Your expectations are unrealistic Although we all know too well that losing weight takes a lot of time, every time we begin a diet we want to see the results almost immediately. Most people think that only after a week of dieting their body shape will noticeably change. Well, no such thing will happen, because of course, the weight that you have gained over months or years wont shed off in a week or a month. You are losing weight without realizing it Its very common

How To Compromise Between Keeping Ketone-levels High And Not Losing Weight?

How to compromise between keeping ketone-levels high and not losing weight? My name is Erik, Im 33 years old, from Sweden, and this is my first post on the forum! Ive been on a calorie restricted ketogenic diet since april this year to keep a couple of (benign) tumors from growing, or at least slow them down. Having watched and read a lot by Thomas Seyfried on battling cancer with the ketogenic diet i thought id give it a try. I also mailed him and asked if the diet would have effect on benign tumors as well, and he thought it would. Im doing a MRI and a gastroscopic ultrasound early/mid-january and the results will be very interesting! As a very nice side-effect Ive gone from 104 to 85 kg (229 to 187 pounds, I think) since starting the diet. Ive been more or less overweight since childhood, so the weightloss is most welcome. According to Seyfried and CO, you should ideally reach a glucose/ketone-index of around 1 for the diet to be effective against tumors, but i can only reach that number while calorie-restricted, which he also points out. As of now, I have approx 7-8% body fat, and really dont feel the need to lose any more weight Ive been doing IF (approx 16/8) since the start Continue reading >>

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  1. manohman

    Why can't fat be converted into Glucose?

    So the reason cited is that beta oxidation/metabolism of fats leads to formation of acetyl coa, a 2 carbon molecule, and that because of that it cannot be converted back into glucose.
    Why exactly is that the case?
    If Glucogenic amino acids can be converted into citric acid cycle intermediates and then turn back into glucose via gluconeogensis, then why cant Fatty Acids which yield Acetyl Coa. Can't you just have Acetyl Coa enter the citric acid cycle and produce the same intermediates that the glucogenic amino acids creat?

  2. Czarcasm

    manohman said: ↑
    So the reason cited is that beta oxidation/metabolism of fats leads to formation of acetyl coa, a 2 carbon molecule, and that because of that it cannot be converted back into glucose.
    Why exactly is that the case?
    If Glucogenic amino acids can be converted into citric acid cycle intermediates and then turn back into glucose via gluconeogensis, then why cant Fatty Acids which yield Acetyl Coa. Can't you just have Acetyl Coa enter the citric acid cycle and produce the same intermediates that the glucogenic amino acids creat?
    Click to expand... Both glucose and fatty acids can be stored in the body as either glycogen for glucose (stored mainly in the liver or skeletal cells) or for FA's, as triacylglycerides (stored in adipose cells). We cannot store excess protein. It's either used to make other proteins, or flushed out of the body if in excess; that's generally the case but we try to make use of some of that energy instead of throwing it all away.
    When a person is deprived of nutrition for a period of time and glycogen stores are depleted, the body will immediately seek out alternative energy sources. Fats (stored for use) are the first priority over protein (which requires the breakdown of tissues such as muscle). We can mobilize these FA's to the liver and convert them to Acetyl-CoA to be used in the TCA cycle and generate much needed energy. On the contrary, when a person eats in excess (a fatty meal high in protein), it's more efficient to store fatty acids as TAG's over glycogen simply because glycogen is extremely hydrophilic and attracts excess water weight; fatty acids are largely stored anhydrously and so you essentially get more bang for your buck. This is evolutionary significant and why birds are able to stay light weight but fly for periods at a time, or why bears are able to hibernate for months at a time. Proteins on the other hand may be used anabolically to build up active tissues (such as when your working out those muscles), unless you live a sedentary lifestyle (less anabolism and therefore, less use of the proteins). As part of the excretion process, protein must be broken down to urea to avoid toxic ammonia and in doing so, the Liver can extract some of that usable energy for storage as glycogen.
    Also, it is worth noting that it is indeed possible to convert FA's to glucose but the pathway can be a little complex and so in terms of energy storage, is not very efficient. The process involves converting Acetyl-CoA to Acetone (transported out of mitochondria to cytosol) where it's converted to Pyruvate which can then be used in the Gluconeogenesis pathway to make Glucose and eventually stored as Glycogen. Have a look for yourself if your interested: http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pcbi.1002116.g003/originalimage (and this excludes the whole glycogenesis pathway, which hasn't even begun yet).
    TLDR: it's because proteins have no ability to be stored in the body, but we can convert them to glycogen for storage during the breakdown process for excretion. Also, in terms of energy, it's a more efficient process than converting FA's to glycogen for storage.

  3. soccerman93

    This is where biochem comes in handy. Czarcasm gives a really good in depth answer, but a simpler approach is to count carbons. The first step of gluconeogenesis(formation of glucose) requires pyruvate, a 3 carbon molecule. Acetyl Co-A is a 2 carbon molecule, and most animals lack the enzymes (malate synthase and isocitrate lyase) required to convert acetyl co-A into a 3 carbon molecule suitable for the gluconeogenesis pathway. The ketogenic pathway is not efficient, as czarcasm pointed out. While acetyl co-A can indeed be used to form citric acid intermediates, these intermediates will be used in forming ATP, not glucose. Fatty acid oxidation does not yield suitable amounts of pyruvate, which is required for gluconeogenesis. This is part of why losing weight is fairly difficult for those that are overweight, we can't efficiently directly convert fat to glucose, which we need a fairly constant supply of. Sorry, that got a little long-winded

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Celebrating Therapeutic Glucose Ketone Index (gki) Of1!

The glucose ketone index is a ratiototrack your metabolic state. Dr. Thomas Seyfried suggests in his book, Cancer as a Metabolic Disease ,that you aim for a GKI between 0.7 to 2.o with a goal of 1. Today, Todd hit 1! When fighting cancer with the Ketogenic Diet, the goal is to depletethe supply of sugar/glucoseto thecancer cells and elevate the blood ketone level between 2-5 mmol depending on who you ask. Elevated ketone bodies have a very promising effect on shrinking tumors in lab & case studies. Getting your blood glucose down & ketones elevated can be a challenging task for some. What works for some may not for others. Through trial & error, Todd found out that tomatoes, almonds & too much dairy will kick him out of ketosis . There are many factors that play into the equation of raisingglucose including too much protein to any type of stress on the body. Heres how we got to 1. Precision Xtra monitor measure blood glucose in mg/dl and ketones in mmol so the glucose needs to be converted into mmol. Continue reading >>

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  1. Kimberley

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    If your blood sugar levels have been "okay today", your ketone levels will soon dissipate, my friend. In fact, if your blood sugar levels really are OK, the ketones will be gone within a few hours. You could try drinking lots of water in a deliberate attempt to make you pee. This will aid your body getting rid of the ketones.

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    I'm not sure what ketones are but my mum was diagnosed with diabetes a couple of years back and she was really bad. Her sister who's a pharmacist told her to slice an aubergine, immerse it in water and drink the water all day. She also did a bit of research and cinnamon kept coming up so she drank lots of cinnamon tea and put it in all her food. When she next went back to the doctor they couldn't believe how quickly her diabetes had come under control. Maybe coincidence, I don't know, but these things can't hurt you so worth a try.

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    Ketones are an acid remaining when the body burns its own fat. If you do test for ketones when you are at home, should you keep getting high blood sugar readings tests that show positive for ketones then call for medical advice.
    Diet is the KEY to getting rid of ketones. You must eat a healthy, well-balanced diet in order for your body to stop burining its own fat resources. You shouldn't exercise too much if you've got ketones either, as your body is already burning fat and you want that to subside.
    You can also test for ketones using ketone testing kits like the Ketostix, Acon urine reagent ketone and some blood glucose meters also detect ketones.

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