Fasting Blood Glucose On Keto

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Fasting Blood Sugars With Keto Diet

Diabetes Forum The Global Diabetes Community Find support, ask questions and share your experiences. Join the community My diagnosis of pre-diabetes or diabetes seems to be dependent on the practice nurse or GP. However after following a "healthy" diet including fruit, veg, cereals, etc. my fasting blood glucose gradually rose to 7.7 mmol/l. I dramatically reduced my carb intake and am now on a ketogenic diet with consistent fasting levels of between 4.6 and 5.0. I would gratefully welcome your opinion as to whether I am diabetic or not? FBG isn't that great an indicator of whether you have Type 2 or not as it represents your blood sugar levels at that precise moment in time. Did you have an HbA1c test as well? That will let you know your average blood sugar levels for the past 2-3 months (we all vary) and is usually used for diagnosis. Your keto diet will be great for keeping your levels down and so you are certainly controlling your condition. Probably not cured but certainly in remission. Hope that helps. At this point, I think the label doesn't matter, as long as you stick to a keto diet. The label comes from western medicine, which is based on western issues, like the western Continue reading >>

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  1. sk8wh33ler

    I looked around here and in the web, but could not find a clear answer. So the situation is: I am in ketosis around 6 month and started to get higher blood sugar 2 month ago. Before I was around 70 - 90. Now I am around 100 to 120, no matter when I meassure. Blood-Ketone level is always around 0.4 to 1.2. My macros are ok and I felt good most of the time. The last 2 weeks though I started to feel a bit down so I started to worry a bit and read into the high BG thing I found 2 articles which leaves a lot of questions unanswered.
    They are a bit old, so there might be more information by now? I am really worried that I have to stop keto just because of this.... can anyone help by making a holding argument? Can I just ignore this? Thanks in advance.

  2. DavePD

    Given your BHB of .4 to 1.2, I think it's more likely you still need to limit carbs and/or protein as there's likely too much glucose still in play. Check your postprandial glucose 1, 2, and 3 hours after meals and see if you spike above 120. If so, your meal is still too high in carbs and/or protein when coupled with your existing insulin response.
    When you get your next blood test, be sure to ask for "Fasting Insulin" too. (This should actually be standard in ALL metabolic panels, but isn't.)
    I'm about 17 months into the diet and I've observed my fasting blood glucose bottom out at 70s to start, then slowly increase to 90s (or even low 100s about 15% of the time), yet my blood BHB is typically between 1.8-3.8. I'm confident this is glucose sparing as my fasting insulin tests are now at the bottom of their range (3.3 with reference range 2.6-24.9) AND I check my postprandial glucose which rarely climbs above 120.
    To add to /u/Solol123's point -- protein is tricky because I find if I have too much within a single meal (such as large steak), it will bring up my glucose postprandial and even have a lasting margin into the next morning with higher glucose and lower BHB.

  3. sk8wh33ler

    thanks for the advice. I will try to control protein even more and will stay with mostly 77g a day.

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FREE 6 Week Challenge: https://gravitychallenges.com/home65d... Fat Loss Calculator: http://bit.ly/2O6rsdo The carb cycling diet is one of my favorite diets because it is one of the fastest way to burn fat while retaining as much muscle as possible. Most people don't know that carb cycling is actually a form of ketogenic dieting. The ketogenic diet is a diet that is lower in carbohydrates, which makes our body convert more dietary fat and body fat in to keytones in the liver. Which it then goes on to use for energy. Like I've said in many of my videos the human body prefers to use carbs as its primary source of energy. You're body won't produce too many keytones on a high carbohydrate diet, because your body won't need extra energy from fat due to the fact that its getting its energy from the more preferred carbohydrates. The only way for our body to use more fat for energy is by not having its preferred source there all the time. Eliminating carbs completely, however can have many drawbacks on our health and well being. Protein, carbs, and fats are all important and necessary for our body. So in comes the cyclical ketogenic diet aka carb cycling and also known originally as the anabolic Diet. There are many different approaches to carb cycling, but the general idea is that At some points of the week you're going to have a high amount of carbohydrates, and at other points of the week you're going to have a low amount of carbohydrates. Setting up the high carb and low carb splits will vary from one plan to the next. Some people may have very small changes in the amount of carbs they have from day to day. An example of this would be to set up a low carb, medium carb, and high carb day. Let's say 300 grams of carbs on high carb, 250 grams of carbs on your medium carb, and 200 grams of carbs on your no carb day. Another more advanced approach would be to do a High carb, low carb, and no carb day. The way that I like to set this kind of split up is by having a high amount of carbs on my high carb day, which for me would be somewhere around 400 grams, I would have one third or at the most half that amount for low carb day, and then try to get as close to 0 grams as possible on my no carb day and then repeat. An even more advanced approach would be to just cycle between high and no carb days. Or take it even a step further and do high, no, no. I don't really recommend having any more than two no carb days in a row. Make sure you don't jump to any extreme carb restrictions. An example of this is doing a 800 calorie diet when you could lose weight and maintain a better body composition with a 1500 calorie diet. Jumping to an extreme will not help you lose weight faster, in fact it'll probably backfire. Also in case you're wondering what kind of food you can eat on your no carb day, some great options are fish, chicken breast, ground turkey, protein shakes, Steak occasionally, and you can also have healthy fat sources like avocados, coconut oil, olive oil. and fatty fish like Salmon. For carbs make sure you are eating good sources of carbs like oats, brown rice, and sweet potatoes and avoid the junk food carbs. You can incorporate one cheat meal on one high carb day in the week, but that's it one cheat meal. You may notice that your strength and energy levels may go down while dieting like this. In fact you may feel like straight up garbage in the beginning. Understand that a lot of people feel this way when creating any kind of a calorie deficit. You're body will take a little while to adapt to using fat for energy instead of carbs. So the first 2 weeks can feel miserable. Give your body some time to adapt. A good idea is to plan your high carb days the day before a heavy lifting day, because this way you have stored glycogen available for your heavy lifts the next day. If you have no idea how many carbs to have on each day, try using a calorie calculator to find your maintenance macros and then add at least 50 grams of carbs to get the number for your high carb day. I'll include a calorie calculator in the description. Once you have your high carb number you should be able to figure out your low carb day. No carb day is obviously no carbs. After doing a carb cycling plan you may need to do some reverse dieting

Glucose Numbers And Ketogenic Diet

GLUCOSE NUMBERS and KETOGENIC DIET When eating a ketogenic diet, the most exposure to carbohydrates is overnight especially towards morning as the liver produces glucose to keep your brain fueled and to prepare you for getting up. Therefore, if you are eating a very ketogenic diet, the blood ketones go up during the day as you burn more fat for fuel (as apposed to a high carb diet where the opposite happens). Something to consider, a ketogenic diet rapidly induces insulin resistance. This is a normal physiological response to carb restriction. Carb restriction drops insulin levels. Low insulin levels activate hormone sensitive lipase. This breaks down fatty tissue into ketone bodies (blood ketones). Your muscles prefer to run on ketones and so they become insulin resistant leaving the glucose in your blood for other cells (like the brain). However, while muscles are in “refusal mode” for glucose any glucose put into your bloodstream, from food or gluconeogenesis (blood glucose made from protein or other tissues), will rapidly spike blood glucose. This is fine if you stick to LC in your eating. It also means that if you take an oral glucose tolerance test you will fail and be la Continue reading >>

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  1. GMX

    I've been ketoing now almost 5 weeks but have been struggling to get my fasting blood glucose down. This morning my blood ketones registered at .8 but my blood glucose was 122. I'm eating about 90-100g protein a day but I weigh 217. Is it still just too much protein? Carb intake is negligible. Fat intake is probably 250g a day. Any thoughts? Thanks.

  2. Mare

    For your weight, that does not seem like a lot of protein to me. I weigh 145, and I've calculated my minimum protein at 60g and can go as high as 100g.
    As to blood glucose, there's a phenomenon with ketosis where fasting BG is elevated, but it is benign. Peter at Hyperlipid had a post on his blog some time ago that provided the science behind this, but I could not follow it. This may be what you're experiencing.

    My endo told me that this is true, and he goes by my A1C rather than my fasting because of this.

  3. carolT

    Protein could be lower if you are female (sorry, can't tell) and/or not exercising, but the ketone level indicates you are accessing some fat overnight.

    Have you taken glucose readings at night or before your main meal? Are they lower? You may be experiencing "dawn phenomenon" where glucose is higher in the morning because 1.) the same hormones that wake you up also give you some extra glucose to start the day or 2.) your glucose dropped overnight and your body reacts by making more of it. Also, if you happen to get up in the middle of the night, you could see what your glucose is doing before your normal waking time.

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What is BLOOD PLASMA? What does BLOOD PLASMA mean? BLOOD PLASMA meaning, definition & explanation. Blood plasma is the pale straw (yellow) coloured liquid component of blood that normally holds the blood cells in whole blood in suspension; this makes plasma the extracellular matrix of blood cells. It makes up about 55% of the body's total blood volume. It is the intravascular fluid part of extracellular fluid (all body fluid outside of cells). It is mostly water (up to 95% by volume), and contains dissolved proteins (6–8%) (i.e.—serum albumins, globulins, and fibrinogen), glucose, clotting factors, electrolytes (Na+, Ca2+, Mg2+, HCO3-, Cl-, etc.), hormones, and carbon dioxide (plasma being the main medium for excretory product transportation). Plasma also serves as the protein reserve of the human body. It plays a vital role in an intravascular osmotic effect that keeps electrolytes in balanced form and protects the body from infection and other blood disorders. Blood plasma is prepared by spinning a tube of fresh blood containing an anticoagulant in a centrifuge until the blood cells fall to the bottom of the tube. The blood plasma is then poured or drawn off. Blood plasma has a density of approximately 1025 kg/m3, or 1.025 g/ml. Blood serum is blood plasma without clotting factors; in other words, "pure" blood. Plasmapheresis is a medical therapy that involves blood plasma extraction, treatment, and reintegration. It is on the WHO Model List of Essential Medicines, the most important medications needed in a basic health system.

Differential Fasting Plasma Glucose And Ketone Body Levels In Ghrko Versus 3xtg-ad Mice: A Potential Contributor To Aging-related Cognitive Status?

Differential Fasting Plasma Glucose and Ketone Body Levels in GHRKO versus 3xTg-AD Mice: A Potential Contributor to Aging-Related Cognitive Status? 1Department of Physiology, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine, Carbondale, IL 62901, USA 2Center for Integrated Research in Cognitive and Neural Sciences, Southern Illinois University, Carbondale, IL 62901, USA 3Division of Geriatrics Research, Department of Internal Medicine, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine, P.O. Box 19628, Springfield, IL 62794-9628, USA 4Department of Anatomy, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine, Carbondale, IL 62901, USA Correspondence should be addressed to Peter R. Patrylo Received 20 December 2016; Revised 11 April 2017; Accepted 26 April 2017; Published 30 May 2017 Copyright 2017 Chelsea M. Griffith et al. This is an open access article distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution License , which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited. Cognitive function declines with age and appears to correlate with decreased cerebral metabolic rate (CMR). Caloric restriction, an antiaging manipulation Continue reading >>

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  1. MarvinW

    Prediabetic Fasting Blood Glucose Level on Keto Diet

    Anyone ever take a fasting blood glucose test and get disappointing results?
    My wife had a kit leftover from her last pregnancy and struggle with gestational diabetes. Out of curiosity I decided to try it. I was disappointed to see that it showed me 113 mg/dL. In the past I've had results in the upper 90s before, but never over 100. I later found out that it is the result of a very low carb diet and that physiological insulin resistance starts as a method to preserve what little glucose is in the body for the brain by preventing your muscles from absorbing it. What sucks is that you could potentially be branded "diabetic" by a doctor because of these results even though the number shouldn't really apply because it is based on a reaction of those with a higher-carb diet. This could affect you should you ever try to get on an individual insurance plan.

  2. lawrencep93

    If your body is doing that, it means you are still burning sugar not ketones for brain fuel, look at your keto diet and get it correct.
    Buy a ketone meter and get yourself into the 1-3 millimolar range to be in proper keto.

  3. MarvinW

    Originally Posted by lawrencep93
    If your body is doing that, it means you are still burning sugar not ketones for brain fuel, look at your keto diet and get it correct.
    Buy a ketone meter and get yourself into the 1-3 millimolar range to be in proper keto.

    Perhaps, but I am not inclined to agree. I've been keeping net carbs <20 and protein at a level just enough to maintain my lean mass. Whether you are in ketosis or not you will still have glucose in your system- whether it is from protein synthesis (dietary or taken from lean mass) or from net carbs that you consume. And some glucose is
    still required by your brain, though it can operate primarily on ketones. Having a slightly higher fasting blood glucose level does not necessarily mean that I am burning sugar primarily rather than ketones for brain fuel. The effect of physiological insulin resistance is documented as having an association with VLC diets and fasting. Here are a few references you might find interesting:
    To get an accurate read not affected by hydration levels the blood glucose measurement would be best, but I'm not going to spend $2-5 a test strip to make that happen. Unless you have a good source of cheap strips? I'd definitely be interested there.

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