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Will I Still Lose Weight If I Don't Quite Reach Ketosis?

Diabetes Forum The Global Diabetes Community Find support, ask questions and share your experiences. Join the community Will I still lose weight if I don't quite reach ketosis? So I haven't actually started my keto yet. It will start when I get my shopping and I've already compiled a list. I've calculated how many carbs I'll roughly be having and it will be roughly in the 40g mark. My questions are a. Is that enough to reach ketosis? And b. Even if I don't reach ketosis with that level of carb will I easily lose weight? Thanks in advance some lose weight only when being low in carbs, and not nessesarily in ketosis, I think it differs from one person to the other how low one must go to get into ketosis If you want to guarantee that you get into ketosis try cutting right down to a maximum of 20-25g carbs total for a couple of weeks. But you may well be able to lose weight on your 40g carbs anyway - you'll have to try it and see as "no one size fits all". You don't have to be in ketosis to lose weight, and you may not necessarily lose weight when you're in ketosis. Either way you should start to see an improvement in your glucose levels though. Use Google to find one of the low carb/ Continue reading >>

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  1. danielcruit

    What if I did 100g/day, or 50g/day?
    I'm trying to do this with my partner, and just due to life situation, we don't really have the ability to track religiously what we eat, and staying under 20g is not really possible, for reasons I don't want to get into now. What I'm interested in is simply whether weight loss will still occur at 100g or 50g/day, just more slowly than under 20g, or if we won't lose any weight at all.
    I'm also confused about calories- I'm really a beginner to this, but I was lead to believe that calories didn't matter, only how much carbs you ate, but I see people on this sub all the time asking "how many calories are you eating a day?" to people who say that they are having trouble losing weight on keto.
    Thanks so much for any insight, my understanding of this is really limited.

  2. anbeav

    Ketosis != weight loss
    Ketosis works for many because it makes eating at a deficit feel easier but it's not required for weight loss.
    Also most at less than 100 grams/day are transiently in ketosis.
    If you eat fewer calories than you need at 100 or 50 gram carb intake, you will lose weight. People lose weight eating at much higher carb intake. Keto is not the only way to lose weight (caveat: insulin resistance complicates this situation)
    Calories aren't all that matters, but they matter. For some they can achieve a caloric deficit eating to satiety, many others cannot and need to count calories. If you're not eating in a deficit, you will not lose weight. Calories mater.

  3. IRiseFromTheAshes

    I've never understood why carbs are limited to 0-50g/day, with emphasis of eating under 30g, if being under 100g will still keep you at some level of ketosis. I find it frustrating at times having to limit my vegetable intake of all things simply because I require a lot of calories / day (sometimes close to 4000), which means that proportionally I would have say, 40g of carbs from vegetable instead of 20g from someone eating 2000 calories.

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Ketosis: Do I Need It To Burn The Fat I Eat?

Hello there, I'm new to Paleo - I started a sort of 30 day challenge (which I do hope to maintain past the 30 days). I've read the must-read books and blogs and I've almost become obsessed with it, talking about it to all my friends. The much I read, however, the more question I have on a more technical level. Ketosis is one of the aspects. I've read Mark Sisson's post on how many carbs we should eat (I'm not strictly counting, though) and apparently I still have some carbs from fruits and veggies. But from what I've understand, ketosis only kicks in when carbs are really low. 1 Worst Carb After Age 50 If you're over 50 and you eat this carb, you will never lose belly fat. HealthPlus50 So, my simple question would be: if I'm still having some carbs from veggies and fruit, can they be enough for me not to got into ketosis? And if I don't, how will my body use the extra fat I've been eating? Won't that be stored, making me fatter? Or can the body still use the fat I eat as energy without going into ketosis? Sorry if this is such a newbie question - I did searched around everywhere but couldn't find a specific answer. Thanks a lot! Continue reading >>

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  1. danielcruit

    What if I did 100g/day, or 50g/day?
    I'm trying to do this with my partner, and just due to life situation, we don't really have the ability to track religiously what we eat, and staying under 20g is not really possible, for reasons I don't want to get into now. What I'm interested in is simply whether weight loss will still occur at 100g or 50g/day, just more slowly than under 20g, or if we won't lose any weight at all.
    I'm also confused about calories- I'm really a beginner to this, but I was lead to believe that calories didn't matter, only how much carbs you ate, but I see people on this sub all the time asking "how many calories are you eating a day?" to people who say that they are having trouble losing weight on keto.
    Thanks so much for any insight, my understanding of this is really limited.

  2. anbeav

    Ketosis != weight loss
    Ketosis works for many because it makes eating at a deficit feel easier but it's not required for weight loss.
    Also most at less than 100 grams/day are transiently in ketosis.
    If you eat fewer calories than you need at 100 or 50 gram carb intake, you will lose weight. People lose weight eating at much higher carb intake. Keto is not the only way to lose weight (caveat: insulin resistance complicates this situation)
    Calories aren't all that matters, but they matter. For some they can achieve a caloric deficit eating to satiety, many others cannot and need to count calories. If you're not eating in a deficit, you will not lose weight. Calories mater.

  3. IRiseFromTheAshes

    I've never understood why carbs are limited to 0-50g/day, with emphasis of eating under 30g, if being under 100g will still keep you at some level of ketosis. I find it frustrating at times having to limit my vegetable intake of all things simply because I require a lot of calories / day (sometimes close to 4000), which means that proportionally I would have say, 40g of carbs from vegetable instead of 20g from someone eating 2000 calories.

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Can You Burn Fat Without Being In Ketosis?

When you're trying to lose weight, what you really want is to lose fat while preserving your lean muscle mass. Ketosis occurs when the body burns fat at a high rate. Lowering your carbohydrate intake gets you into the fat-burning zone, but you don't necessarily have to be in ketosis to achieve this goal. Video of the Day Ketosis means that your body is burning fat at high enough rates that you have a lot of ketone bodies, waste compounds produced during the burning of fat. These ketone bodies can also be burned for energy by your brain and most of your other body cells. To have ketone levels high enough to be detectable, you need to keep your carbohydrate intake lower than 50 grams per day, according to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. If you are in ketosis, which can be verified by using urine ketone strips, you can be 100 percent sure that your body is in fat-burning mode. During a study published in 2005 in the "Journal of the American Medical Association," researchers compared different diet plans, finding that people can lose fat without being in ketosis. If your carb intake is too high, your body prioritizes burning these carbs first. You can promo Continue reading >>

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  1. Madmax640

    I always wondered about this. How do you loose weight if you still eat carbs and do not enter ketosis? I know that, broadly speaking, weight loss will occur from a calorie deficit, but if you are not in ketosis, how is you body getting to the fat? If it is burning glucose and glycogen, how is your body fat reduced? Thanks guys!

  2. wm1989

    You really don't have to be low carb to go into ketosis. Low enough calories will cause it to happen.

    Ketosis is not actually how you burn most of the fat. It is only a response to get energy across the blood brain barrier.

    Even during ketosis, most fat is burned through tradition fatty acid metabolism. This is why ketone production will go down the more deep into the keto diet you go. Your body gets good at using fatty acids (more mitochondria).

    Lipolysis can be triggered by glucagon (low carb and low calorie environments), testosterone, growth hormone, epinephrine... And probably others. No need to reduce carbs for the others.

    You use fat stores for energy even when gaining weight, you just add to them faster than your body uses them. Think of it as a balanced system normally. Keto diets shifts the energy usage balance sharply towards fats, also limits the body's ability to store extra fat.

  3. patron_vectras

    Ketosis is not actually how you burn most of the fat. It is only a response to get energy across the blood brain barrier.
    Is this mentioned in all the books about eating a diet not-so-rich in carbs that I have not read? Taubes, Ninoltz, etc? It isn't something I've known before just now and I watch videos and read up online, but don't have time for books.

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