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Can You Go Into Ketosis If You Drink Alcohol?

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Peter Attia is a relentless self-experimenter, obsessed with the idea of a "quantified self." In the presentation he will share two components of his physical transformation as he evolved from "fit but fat and metabolically deranged" to "fit, lean, and metabolically dialed in." In particular, Peter will focus on the possible advantages of a ketogenic diet, and in the process share much of what he's learned implementing it in himself and hundreds of others over the past two years. Peter is the President and co-founder of the Nutrition Science Initiative (NuSI), a California-based 501(c)(3). Peter is also a physician and former McKinsey & Company consultant, where he was a member of both the corporate risk and healthcare practices. Prior to his time at McKinsey, Peter spent five years at the Johns Hopkins Hospital as a general surgery resident, where he was the recipient of several prestigious awards and the author of a comprehensive review of general surgery. Peter also spent two years at the National Institutes of Health as a surgical oncology fellow at the National Cancer Institute under Dr. Steve Rosenberg, where his research focused on the role of regulatory T cells in cancer regression and other immune-based therapies for cancer. Peter is a 2012/2013 recipient of the French-American Foundation Young Leader's Fellowship, which recognizes the most promising leaders under 40. Peter earned his M.D. from Stanford University and holds a B.Sc. in mechanical engineering and applied mathematics from Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada, where he also taught and helped design the calculus curriculum.

Ketosis – Advantaged Or Misunderstood State? (part I)

As The Eating Academy approaches its first birthday in about a month, I figured it was as good a time as any to put together some thoughts on a subject I get asked about with great frequency. (For those wondering when I’ll get to Part X of The Straight Dope on Cholesterol, the answer is, “hopefully before the end of the year.”) A few months ago I was planning a post along the lines of “the 10 things you need to know about ketosis,” but I’m now thinking that might be putting the proverbial cart before the horse. So, let’s start with a more fundamental set of questions. In part I of this post I will see to it (assuming you read it) that you’ll know more about ketosis than just about anyone, including your doctor or the majority of “experts” out there writing about this topic. Before we begin, a disclaimer in order: If you want to actually understand this topic, you must invest the time and mental energy to do so. You really have to get into the details. Obviously, I love the details and probably read 5 or 6 scientific papers every week on this topic (and others). I don’t expect the casual reader to want to do this, and I view it as my role to synthesize this inf Continue reading >>

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  1. Pat Kelly

    > Drinking Alcohol and Atkins -- Can it be Done??

    I have been very good about keeping to my induction phase strictly. I never cheat. However, I am a young person and I like to out drinking with my friends. I find that my drinking sprees are killing my Atkins diet and ruining the results.
    If I switch from beer to, say, rum and diet coke, will that be zero carbs? There are no carbs in diet coke, and as far as I know, there are no carbs in vodka, whiskey, rum, etc.
    Also, once you blow the Atkins induction by, say, getting drunk one night, how long does it take to get back into ketosis. I mean, I run 3 miles every day, so will that make me go back into ketosis more quickly?
    Thanks!

  2. yvonne326

    One of the reasons I chose Atkins against other LC plans is the allowance of an occassional (and that's the key word) low-carb beer, glass of wine or drink. I will tell you from my experience last summer....I was drinking 2-3 drinks 2-3X a week and was losing a pathetic 2 lbs a month...this without cheating. This time, I am only having a few every so often (1x a week at most) and I am losing rather well - 3 lbs a week. So the gist of it is this: The more you drink, the slower your weight loss....Period. ANd it depends on what you drink too. I find that when I indulge in wine or lite beer....its worse than if I drink Vodka w/diet soda or crystal lite.

  3. mb99

    This issue is disscussed a lot at the students/teen board so maybe you would like to do a search there..
    Drinking alchol both contributes carbs and means that your body will burn the alcohol first before fat - meaning weight loss is delayed. I think the number one thing is to stay away from beer - becuase of serving sizes etc the number of carbs you are drinking add up quickly. If you can't handle giving up beer I would reccomend progressing through OWL and then reducing your carbs the days you intend to go out for a beer.
    You are right that rum and diet coke is a better option carb-wise, but it will still delay weight loss while your body is burning alchol. I would say just try to keep it in moderation, and avoid the bar snacks...
    I don't know about running and keotosis, but the positive effects of running on the metabolism can't be denied me thinks... :)

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Drinking Booze While In Ketosis: Is It Dangerous?

Hey all. I was bumping around the paleo inter-webs and came across this little nugget on ketosis: DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL IF YOU ARE KETOTIC! Alcohol is a powerful inhibitor of gluconeogenesis. In fact, it forces part of the gluconeogenic metabolic process into reverse. This means that if all the glucose in the blood is being derived from gluconeogenesis then the consumption of alcohol will inevitably cause the blood glucose level to fall. Worse still, the alcohol also stops ketone body production, thus leaving the brain entirely without fuel. 1 Worst Carb After Age 50 If you're over 50 and you eat this carb, you will never lose belly fat. HealthPlus50 A person who is ketotic is 100% reliant on gluconeogenesis to maintain adequate levels of glucose in the blood. If, under these circumstances alcohol is taken, the person will become disorientated and might lose consciousness, not just from the alcohol, but from low blood sugar. Needless to say, this could be very dangerous, and even fatal. Alcohol does not have these effects if the glycogen stores in the liver are normal. Under these circumstances the blood glucose level in the blood is maintained by the breakdown of liver glycogen, a Continue reading >>

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  1. MeepoTwin

    Strategically drinking alcohol to stay in ketosis?

    Hello everyone,
    I understand after drinking alcohol, it is metabolized as acetate. Since acetate cannot be stored, and is considered by the body to be a poison, it is metabolized with the highest priority. This means that all other macro nutrients in the blood will be stored, since the alcohol is being utilized for energy.
    With this logic in mind, if I eat carbohydrates while intoxicated, the body will not begin the process of using carbohydrates for energy because of the alcohol's acetate is currently being processed. This means the carbohydrates will directly be stored without initiating the glucose pathways.
    Does this mean I can stay in keto even after consuming carbs and sobering up since the glucose pathways never began? I do understand alcohol does have an excess amount of calories, and the calories of the carbs still count. But the question is will you stay in ketosis afterwards?
    I feel like it doesn't work this way, but at the same time, the logic seems to somehow work.
    Assuming the first few statements regarding metabolic processes are correct, does this mean you can use alcohol to stay in keto because you never utilize the glucose pathways?
    (I apologize for the lack of sources, I cannot find them at the moment)
    Thanks in advance

  2. toast.tm

    I see where you are coming from and I have been drunk and stayed in Ketosis but...
    The body would switch from using Ketones as fuel to the fuel from the alcohol - ethanol?? So if this was the case then when that runs out (you sober up) it will look for the nearest available fuel (the carbs you ate that haven’t yet been processed) so you would need to get into ketosis again.
    If you drink beer then your eating carbs with the alcohol.
    Sorry this is not a proper answer.
    When I am on Keto I drink slim line Tonic (diet) with Gin and have stayed in but didnt eat carbs.
    I love drinking but to be honest, drinking on keto sucks.

  3. Atavis

    Lol.

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My Experience With Exogenous Ketones & Red Wine

Yesterday was the 8th day of my journey into ketosis. I started on Monday 11th July and was intending to go for a couple of weeks. See my first post here. My first 2 days were the most ‘painful’ in terms of hunger pangs and headaches. I also struggled to sleep well when I finished eating before 9pm and went to bed on an empty stomach. I was in Ketosis on Wednesday and proved this by using ketone strips. These are strips that detect ketones in your urine. I was going ‘darker’ on Thursday and Friday and at a fitness convention in LA called IDEA Fit, I came across exogenous ketones. Find my Facebook live video here which I filmed there. You might have to like the page to see the videos. These are a ketones that you take in externally that put you into, what I think can be called, a ‘false’ state of ketosis, within 30 minutes. This means your liver is actually producing ketones without being starved of carbohydrates for several days. This seems like a very cool bio-hack as it apparently puts you into fat burning mode. I’ve come across these before but I haven’t tested them. The main point about them, is that they help you to get through the “keto flu” – this is wh Continue reading >>

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  1. kmjw02

    Hey all,
    So I have been on the program for 3 weeeks - have lost 10 lbs. I'm pretty happy with my success thus far.
    However, I am just finishing exams this weekend and then will be starting work full time for the summer on Monday. I haven't drank for almost a month and I know its going to very very difficult for me not to drink on Saturday when I go out with all of my friends to celebrate.
    I was wondering if anyone here has drank b4 Phase 1 was completed? How did it affect you?
    If anything, I will be drinking vodka sodas with lime - no sugary drinks.
    Thx!

  2. darbs7

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    Originally Posted by kmjw02
    Hey all,
    So I have been on the program for 3 weeeks - have lost 10 lbs. I'm pretty happy with my success thus far.
    However, I am just finishing exams this weekend and then will be starting work full time for the summer on Monday. I haven't drank for almost a month and I know its going to very very difficult for me not to drink on Saturday when I go out with all of my friends to celebrate.
    I was wondering if anyone here has drank b4 Phase 1 was completed? How did it affect you?
    If anything, I will be drinking vodka sodas with lime - no sugary drinks.
    Thx!
    I am starting my 35th week on the program. I did not touch alcohol for 16 weeks (before the diet I drank weekly and more than once a week). I lost 52 pounds during those first few months.
    Since then I have had numerous planned cheat mostly centered around drinks and happy hour type foods.
    It takes about a week to recover from my planned cheats and get back into ketosis and losing again.
    If you drink just vodka with diet soda or just dry wine....I would think you could enjoy the night and not get out of ketosis (I have done this on many occasions), but if you make bad decisions while under the influence and knock yourself out of ketosis you might get frustrated.
    Personal recommendations...it is too soon to go off protocol at all. You don't have much weight to lose and if you give it about 5-7 more perfect weeks you will be at goal and done and happy you did not cheat.
    I didn't even leave my house for 2 months, because I didn't trust myself to make good decisions, but since then I have learned a ton and have come a long ways in the decision making process.
    Avoid the drinking this weekend and by Memorial Day you will be thrilled you did. good luck in your decision.

  3. ontariophotogal

    I personally haven't but have read that it can really mess with your results. This is just my 2 cents but for the amount of money we're putting into this program and the amount of physical and emotional sacrifice it takes to make it through the first couple of weeks, do you really want to mess with that? It will set you back at least a week, which means about 100.00 lost on the program itself, not to mention the cost of the alcohol and the mental cost of trying to get back OP. There will always be alcohol later and sacrifices have to be made in order to be successful. I KNOW it's not easy but it will be soooo worth it if you can resist the urge, I promise. Good luck with your decision

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