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Whey Protein On Keto: Does Whey Protein Kick You Out Of Ketosis?

“What’s the best whey protein on keto diets? Will it knock me out of ketosis?” If you’re currently on a ketogenic diet or looking to start it because of its fast fat-burning qualities, you might be wondering whether you can pour yourself a delicious protein shake to drink. Keto diets are very strict. And since only some foods are allowed, and some are thrown right out the window, this is a common question. Most people joining keto diets come from the bodybuilding community. And a big part of their diet is whey protein shakes. But there’s one problem… Is it okay to drink whey protein on a keto diet? Do they stop you from reaching ketosis? By the time you finish reading this post, you’ll find out the exact answer to whether you should or shouldn’t use whey protein on keto diets. (Hint: you can only use some) Plus, the best protein powders you should use if you’re on a keto diet. But to answer this question, you need to know how ketogenic diets work. How Ketogenic Diets Work (I assume most of you already know how it works, so I’m going to keep it short. And get straight to your question after) A keto diet is a low-carb, moderate protein, and high fat diet. Its main Continue reading >>

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  1. itsjoseyvenom

    How much protein will kick you out of ketosis?

    Ketogenic diets call for 20% of calories for protein.
    I am 255 lbs and looking to start keto soon. Does that equate to about 120 grams of protein? Also, considering that I will be lifting weights for the majority of the week, isn't 20% protein too little?
    Thanks!

  2. danfleysher

    Ignore percentages on a keto diet and focus on hard numbers.
    Carbs: 30g NET
    Protein: 1g / lb of Lean Muscle Mass
    Fats: Rest of your calories

  3. kennycroxdale

    Originally Posted by danfleysher
    Ignore percentages on a keto diet and focus on hard numbers.

    Bad Advice
    The only definitive "Hard Number" is carbohydrates. It need to be 50 gram per day or less.
    Protein need to be between 15 to 25%.
    Fats need to be 65% or greater.
    Kenny Croxdale

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How Much Protein Is Too Much?

Now that fat is out of the spotlight, the focus for many in low carb and vegan circles has turned to protein as the macronutrient that needs to be avoided for health, good blood sugar control and longevity. At the same time there are still are plenty of ‘meat heads’ who say that their ‘brotein’ can do no wrong and you can’t get enough of it. In the sea of conflicting opinions and advice, how do we determine the optimal amount of protein that will suit our situation, goals and needs? How much protein do we need? How much is too little protein? How much protein is too much? This is an intriguing, controversial and multifaceted discussion. So hold on as I try to unpack the various perspectives! First, let’s look at the general recommendations for protein intake. Lean body mass Protein recommendations are often given in terms of grams per kilogram of lean body (LBM) where “LBM” is your current weight minus your fat mass. Protein is required to support your muscles, not your fat. You can use a DEXA scan, bioimpedance scale or pictures (like the ones below) to estimate your level of body fat (% BF) and then calculate your LBM using the following formula: lean body mass (L Continue reading >>

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  1. LuxeGirl

    > Does eating too much protein really kick you out of ketosis?

    Read a thread online discussing how important it is not to go too overboard with your protein as it will knock you out of ketosis...
    Is there any truth to this?

  2. anvia

    Yes.
    The simple explanation is your body converts extra proteins into sugars. If you are going to up something increase your fats rather than your proteins.

  3. GRB5111

    Yes, I had direct experience with this and when I decreased my protein levels to something more moderate than what I was consuming, ketone measurements increased into the correct range.

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What is GLUCONEOGENESIS? What does GLUCONEOGENESIS mean? GLUCONEOGENESIS meaning - GLUCONEOGENESIS definition - GLUCONEOGENESIS explanation. Source: Wikipedia.org article, adapted under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... license. SUBSCRIBE to our Google Earth flights channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Uu... Gluconeogenesis (GNG) is a metabolic pathway that results in the generation of glucose from certain non-carbohydrate carbon substrates. From breakdown of proteins, these substrates include glucogenic amino acids (although not ketogenic amino acids); from breakdown of lipids (such as triglycerides), they include glycerol (although not fatty acids); and from other steps in metabolism they include pyruvate and lactate. Gluconeogenesis is one of several main mechanisms used by humans and many other animals to maintain blood glucose levels, avoiding low levels (hypoglycemia). Other means include the degradation of glycogen (glycogenolysis) and fatty acid catabolism. Gluconeogenesis is a ubiquitous process, present in plants, animals, fungi, bacteria, and other microorganisms. In vertebrates, gluconeogenesis takes place mainly in the liver and, to a lesser extent, in t

More Than You Ever Wanted To Know About Protein & Gluconeogenesis

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  1. rumSmuggler

    I recently (couple weeks ago) started weights and also taking some protein powder (low carb - 1,8g per serving).
    As suggested I raised my protein intake and I'm somewhere around 1 to 1.2 protein ratio. Last couple days I used ketostix to test my ketones and it was negative. I'm sure I didn't exceed 20g carbs per day because I track all my food.
    Could that higher protein intake kick me out of ketosis?

  2. gupe

    As far as I've been able to discover, there are no absolutely definitive answers to the excess protein => additional glucose => inhibition of ketosis? causal chain question.
    This is a good article: "If You Eat Excess Protein, Does It Turn Into Excess Glucose?" on ketotic.org.
    And here is a recent discussion on "After workout protein needs" on /r/ketogains.
    An important unresolved question is: is gluconeogenesis (the manufacture of new glucose by the liver using proteins and fat) a supply-driven process or a demand-driven process?
    If it is a supply-driven process, then it seems more plausible that excess consumption of protein will lead to higher blood sugar levels.
    But if it's demand-driven, then excess glucose might just be due to the slower removal of glucose from the blood-stream after protein has been eaten, causing a bit of a build-up.
    I think that it might vary a lot from person to person. The best is to measure your own blood ketone concentration before and after eating protein. (The ketostix method is not as reliable, particularly if you've just finished a work-out.)
    Edit: fixed link.

  3. darthluiggi

    It can, but it depends on various factors such as weight, activity level, etc.
    I asked the science behind it to to /u/gogge and he gave a very good explanation in another post.
    Fact is, if you are doing strength training you will need to increase your protein intake, otherwise you will not grow muscle. Also protein comes into play if you are eating at a deficit.
    If you are completely sure that protein is taking you out of ketosis, then drop your intake to 1.0 and see if you get back.
    How much do you weight, what % BF do you have, what kind of excercises are you doing and for how long?
    As a side note: don't rely on ketostsix to see if you are in or out of keto.
    *Edited for grammar.

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