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Can Too Much Protein Kick You Out Of Ketosis?

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How Too Much Protein Is Bad For Ketosis

One of the well-known mantras of the ketogenic diet is very low carb intake and high fat intake. But there’s another nutrient that’s important to monitor when going keto—and a lot of people make the mistake of not considering its importance. That would be protein. Although protein is a critical element in the diet we need for optimal health, it’s important to not eat TOO much protein on the ketogenic diet. Why? Well, there are a couple reasons that we’ll be discussing below. How Too Much Protein is Bad for Ketosis The biggest energy source on the ketogenic diet is fat. In fact, around 75% of your diet should come from healthy fat sources. The key here is that, unlike the traditional idea of low-carb diets where protein is higher, protein intake should bemoderate, not high, on keto. Not following this advice will never allow your body to enter ketosis, which is the main point of going keto and reaping all of the amazing benefits. The reason too much protein is bad for ketosis is because our bodies have a fundamental energy process called gluconeogenesis. For a deeper dive into the topic, see our post on fixing the biggest ketosis mistakes. For now we shoud know the basics. Continue reading >>

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  1. NicoleAnn

    Ketones and Unrinary Tract Infection

    Is it normal when you have a high level of ketone's in your system to get a urinary tract infection? I'm kinda wondering about it, since my doctor doesn't listen to me when I say I have ketone's and he gives me antibiotics for a urinary tract infection. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

  2. MarkM

    Infections are not caused by ketones. But they are encouraged by the high blood sugar that often accompanies ketones. Bacteria love warm moist places where there are lots of nutrients. If you lower your blood sugar to the point there is no longer sugar in your urine, you will be removing one of the key attractions. And hopefully you won't get so many infections. But until this happens, you are going to have to use antibiotics ... .

  3. Kaki

    I already commented on your blog this morning regarding ketones, as an individual who has had many UTI's, women know when they have an infection, as its not possible to urinate without that burning sensation, which we do not tolerate very well and will send you immediately to your doctor for medication to resolve a UTI, you made no mention as to whether you did in fact give your doctor a urine specimen.

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How Much Protein Do You Need on a Low Carb Diet? | Ketosis Protein Requirements- Thomas DeLauer: How Much Protein is Really Required? Want to Unlock the Myths? Check out more at http://www.ThomasDeLauer.com Wondering about the Magnesium I'm always talking about? Check it out at http://www.JigsawHealth.com I also sit on the Clinical Advisory Board for http://www.SheerStrengthLabs.com to help them formulate with ingredients that I help research. When you are fasting your body turns to body tissues at the rate of 26% protein and 74% fat, thus fasting is highly ketogenic, producing more ketones than glucose. You can eat foods that lead to ketosis, including coconut oil and amino acids that form ketones rather than glucose. Leucine and lysine are purely ketogenic amino acids. Consuming lots of short-chain fatty acids, such as those found in coconut oil, also contribute to the livers production of ketones. To make a diet ketogenic, consume abundant fats, very few carbs and not excessive protein. You can then supplement with leucine, lysine and short-chain fatty acids such as coconut oil. So how much protein do you need to provide your brain with enough energy when on a ketogenic diet? Your brain typically needs 100 grams of glucose per day. When you are consuming a ketogenic diet, roughly 75 grams of glucose need to be produced, with the remaining coming from converting glycerol to glucose. After your body has been running off of ketosis for about 3 weeks, the brains glucose needs drop to about 40 grams of glucose, over a 50% decrease in the amount of glucose needed. About 18 grams come from the conversion of glycerol with the remaining 25 grams coming from protein. This is because your brain is using more ketones rather than glucose for energy. Because roughly 58% of dietary protein appears in the blood as glucose, we can determine the amount of dietary protein that is required by looking at dietary protein intakes and the amount of glucose that is produced. When determining how much protein you need you want to consider not only your brains needs but the remainder of your body as well. There is not an exact formula that gives an individual the correct amount of protein for them. This varies based on the individual, and factors such as age, sex, physical activity and protein source come into play. Nitrogen balance can be used to determine the quantity of protein needed in a diet. This is because between fats, carbohydrates and protein, only protein contains nitrogen. If you consume excess protein, you will excrete extra nitrogen through your urine, so testing can be done to determine your protein needs. Your protein intake is not quite as simple as grams of protein, but also must consider the quality of protein. As protein is made up of amino acids, you will need different amino acids for your body to function properly. Complete proteins such as eggs, fish and meat are higher quality than foods that do not contain a complete amino acid profile. Studies have found that exercise can make it so that your body keeps amino acids rather than secreting them, making it possible that athletes may actually need less rather than more protein as your muscle protein synthesis increases while breakdown decreases. Using nitrogen balance data it was found that the protein requirements for strength athletes is 1.3 grams protein per kg of weight per day (0.6 g/lb) and for endurance athletes 1.1 grams protein per kg of body weight per day (0.5 g/lb). Taking both nitrogen testing and brain energy needs into consideration, while the beginning of a ketogenic diet does need to be high in protein for brain consumption, it can then fall to as low as 50 grams of protein per day if you are smaller and up to about 0.6 grams/lb of body fat. Because dietary protein in the body is converted to greater quantities of glucose than ketones, you do not want to consume excess protein after a few weeks into the diet or your body will have more glucose than you are intending. References: 1. What is Ketosis? http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/type-1-... 2. Diabetes Education Online http://dtc.ucsf.edu/types-of-diabetes... 3. The fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous? http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/m... 4. A cDNA microarray analysis of gene expression profiles in rat hippocampus following a ketogenic diet http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15... 5. Composition of Weight Loss During Short Term Weight Reduction http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic... 6. Ketogenic diets 1: ways to make a diet ketogenic http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/02/... 7. Our Nitrogen Balance article

How Much Protein Can You Eat In Ketosis?

Having been a low-carb enthusiast and team Diet Doctor member for years, you would have thought I’d nailed ketosis ages ago. I haven’t. In the last post, Why You’re Not in Ketosis, I revealed why, and how I fixed it (by reducing my carb and protein intake to 20 and 60 grams per day respectively). But, I had a problem. Though it felt awesome to be back in ketosis, it sucked to eat so little protein – 60 grams a day isn’t much for a meat lover like me. Could I eat more protein AND remain in optimal ketosis? I was going to find out. The protein experiment I designed the following experiment: First, I would increase my protein intake from 60 grams a day to the level where I would no longer be in optimal ketosis. Then, I would reduce my protein intake until I was back in optimal ketosis, using what I ate on the last day to define my daily-protein limit. Finally, I’d eat to this daily-protein limit every day for a week to test its accuracy, adjusting my protein intake if necessary. To increase the trustworthiness of the experiment, I added five rules: 1. Keep eating 10-20 grams of carbs a day 2. Keep eating during a four-hour window (5-9pm) 3. Adjust my protein intake gradual Continue reading >>

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  1. QuirkyPixy

    I've been eating almost fully primal since the beginning of August to try to correct some health issues. Before I started my period was completely regular, a 28 day cycle with very little variation each month. My period came normally at the end of August, but my September period came 11 days late in the beginning of October, and my November period hasn't come yet. I also got cystic jawline acne right before the late period, and I don't usually get cysts.
    Is this normal? I thought eating primally is supposed to make hormones more regular, but it seems to be doing something weird to mine. My weight hasn't really changed, so I don't think that is the cause. I'm not pregnant, either.
    I eat eggs, ground beef, lamb chops and neck, chicken, canned salmon and sardines, Kerrygold butter, chard, kale, collards, broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, coconut milk and oil, shredded coconut, some baker's chocolate, and berries. I will rarely have a few small Yukon golds or some white rice. Not much else. All of it is organic/free range/grass-fed/whatever. I supplement with 5000 IU of Vit. D, 30mg of zinc, 100 mcg of Selenium, and 400 mg of Magnesium.
    Am I doing something wrong here, or am I being paranoid?

  2. NDF

    A high fat low carb diet can wreck hormonal havoc in some women. Chronic low carb(<100g/day) states can be particularly stressful for some women's bodies.
    What is your exercise like? Even though you state that your weight hasn't really changed, your post doesn't specify, but are you eating with weight loss as a goal? In some women, the "stress" alone of dieting thoughts can alter menstruation.
    Any increased stress in your life?

  3. QuirkyPixy

    Originally posted by NDF
    A high fat low carb diet can wreck hormonal havoc in some women. Chronic low carb(<100g/day) states can be particularly stressful for some women's bodies.
    What is your exercise like? Even though you state that your weight hasn't really changed, your post doesn't specify, but are you eating with weight loss as a goal? In some women, the "stress" alone of dieting thoughts can alter menstruation.
    Any increased stress in your life? Thank you for your reply!
    I get maybe 20g of carbs from berries and probably another 20-30g from veggies per day. I don't intentionally limit them, that's just how it works out; I'm not sure how I could get more carbs in my belly without eating more potatoes and rice, as the veggies fill me up far too quickly. I'm only 94 lbs at 5'1", so weight GAIN is my goal right now. Why does low carb mess with hormones?
    My exercise is a lot of walking; I take public transportation and walk lots to get to bus stops. I also work a fairly active job part time where I'm on my feet all day and lift heavy things at least a few times each shift. Stress is very slightly more than normal, but that hasn't had any real effect on my cycle before. This is puzzling.

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5 Most Common Low-carb Mistakes (and How To Avoid Them)

A few months ago, I read a book called The Art and Science of Low-Carbohydrate Living. The authors are two of the world's leading researchers on low-carb diets. Dr. Jeff S. Volek is a Registered Dietitian and Dr. Stephen D. Phinney is a medical doctor. These guys have performed many studies and have treated thousands of patients with a low-carb diet. According to them, there are many stumbling blocks that people tend to run into, which can lead to adverse effects and suboptimal results. To get into full-blown ketosis and reap all the metabolic benefits of low-carb, merely cutting back on the carbs isn't enough. If you haven't gotten the results you expected on a low-carb diet, then perhaps you were doing one of these 5 common mistakes. There is no clear definition of exactly what constitutes a "low carb diet." Some would call anything under 100-150 grams per day low-carb, which is definitely a lot less than the standard Western diet. A lot of people could get awesome results within this carbohydrate range, as long as they ate real, unprocessed foods. But if you want to get into ketosis, with plenty of ketoness flooding your bloodstream to supply your brain with an efficient source Continue reading >>

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  1. kaazoom

    I recently had my Hba1c tests and it was over 9 . The doctor increased my metformin from 1 tablet twice a day to 2 tablets twice a day. I was told to start by increasing the morning dose and after 2 weeks increase my evening dose. I have had a lot of stomach discomfort, and terrible indigestion since increasing the does. I work up the other morning in extreme pain like I was having a heart attack. The pain went after taking antacids. Indigestion is something I get every now and then, but it is usually due to eating something I should avoid. This day I don't think I had eaten anything that would cause it. But I had increased my evening dose of metformin, so I was and am on 4 tablets a day. I have had more general discomfort than usual, muscle pains and more breathlessness.The difficult is I have other health problems so knowing which one is caused by which is a nightmare.
    I also tend to let myself get dehydrated at night as I have bladder problems which I having investigations for at the moment. If I don't stop drinking about at about 7pm I end up waking numerous times to go to the loo. The only drink I have after 7pm is a few sips of water to help swallow my medications.
    Sorry for being so long winded. My main question is does lactic acidosis come on suddenly, or does it build up over days or weeks?
    Paul

  2. destiny0321

    Hi. If you find your metformin could be causing problems which it did with me runs,breathing problems and generally really poorly go back to your gp I did and I was put on me form in slow release which is much gentler on the stomach hope this helps you destiny
    Sent from the Diabetes Forum App

  3. kaazoom

    Thanks.
    I've got to see my GP next week about something else so I will talk to him about it. I don't think I have lactic acidosis, I was curious about whether it was sudden or gradual onset. I saw something on the TV yesterday that said patients are risking their health because they don't read the information sheets that come with their medication. So I had a look at mine. It gave a number of symptoms to watch out for including severe indigestion,muscle spasms etc it said if you have any of these symptoms when taking Metformin to go immediately to the nearest hospital A&E because these symptoms can be signs of lactic acidosis. I don't think what I'm experiencing is severe enough for A&E.
    I had muscle spasms, pains and a number of the other symptoms list prior to my diabetes diagnose due to other illnesses, and they can vary in severity. They seem to have got somewhat worse since my metformin was increased, but it could just be coincidence. The indigestion and stomach problems are particularly bad. My feeling is my body is taking time to adapt to them. i will ask my doctor if I can change to a slow release version.
    Paul

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